Saturday, December 01, 2007

more Moz xenophobic blah

decide for yourselves:

"The gates of England are flooded. The country's been thrown away.

"... the higher the influx into England the more the British identity disappears"


However, Morrissey damns England over the cost of living and admits that managed immigration "enriches" the country.
Managed?

I wonder how he is any different from any similarly aged White living in or around LA that feels America has lost its identity to the supposed influx of Spanish speaking immigrants?
Afterall, Moz practically fetishizes that immigrant community.
(I use the word immigrant fully recognizing that many Spanish speaking folks in Southern California were there before the Anglos.)


(thanx Jesse)

5 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bengali In Platforms, anyone?

5:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get over it, he is a harmless old British man.

I bet if, say, a Japanese person said something similar, about American influences ruining japanese culture, you'd agree whole heartedly.

You have some ridiculous white guilt issues

11:09 AM  
Blogger shane said...

Dear Anonymous,
Fuck you... trying to dis me without leaving your name.

Japanese Nationalism isn't anything I support at all. Bosozoku & the "black vans" of Japan aren't anything I glorify or support and they are the ones demanding all gai-jin ("foreigners") out of Japan.
As for American influence in Japan, there is a fuckin world of difference between a global superforce imposing itself upon any other nation and immigrant communities which generally locate to locations where they are subjegated by that very same force.

Furthermore, a rich White Britton with legions of supporters is far from "harmless."

Please clarify: Is it "white guilt" whenever a White man supports the oppressed rather than the social privileges he is supposed to?

Jog on!

11:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh let's not bring curse words into this!

Ok fine, not Japan then. Just an example!

A rich white Britton with legions of fans...who do what? Sit around and mope? He's hardly starting a racist revolution. He is a middleaged guy lamenting the changes in his home country.

What I mean by white guilt is, you seem quick to jump on anyone who may ever so slightly hint at not even racism, but social consciousness. It's perfectly fine to defend the' opressed' as you call them (although half the time "the opressed' probably dont even think of themselves as opressed, just crazy armchair 'revolutionaries' like yourself). Being conscious of wite peoples racism towards 'minorites' is good.

But

1. Don't leave out the other side. For instance, 'non white' people hold plenty of untrue sterotypes about white people, just as whites do about them. I never see you defending those. Is that because you might be considered racist?

How about this: black men and hispanic men make me uncomfortable on a daily basis because of the sexually charged things they say to me. Is that more ok than say, an asian (seems to be your 'race' of choice) woman saying the same thing about a white man?

2.If you were truly into making a difference, you'd look beyond race and just look at people as individuals.

3. Being so adamant about defending 'the opressed' could be looked at as a form of racism in itself! Do you see them as so weak and stupid that they don't even know what's going on, and it's your obligation to tell the world? If people really feel opressed, they will do something about it. If they don't, it's not your place. You telling a female that she is being taken advantage of when she doesn't feel that she is, seems just as pushy and chauvinistic as actually taking advantage of her if you ask me.

And yeah, I'm anonymous. I'm so sorry. I'll tell you this though, I'm far younger than you, so now you can play the age card. And I also eat meat, so I'm obviously a terrible person.
But then again, I'm female, (or a 'womyn'?!), so arguing with me could be looked at as chauvinistic...

I don't jog! Do you think every white person jogs! Come on!

You keep talking about the struggle though man, a big high five to your revolutionary blogging. I'm sure the opressed are really thankful for you. Good luck with the struggle and all that. Me, I'm just arguing out of boredom...you know the leisurely white life has its downsides.

12:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with you, what moz says is horrible and it IS dangerous. but i also have to agree with anonymous:

"I bet if, say, a Japanese person said something similar, about American influences ruining japanese culture, you'd agree whole heartedly."

that fucking anti-americanism, be it in europe, japan or the arab world, is no "antiimperialist progressive thinking", it is exactly the same xenophobic bullshit like what moz or rich white americans say about immigrants destroying the cultureof their country or whatever.

2:17 AM  

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