Saturday, January 30, 2010

Agorists?

I heard about some sort of anarchist gathering in San Francisco and was curious why I hadn't heard about it amongst the usual circles. It also seemed immediately odd that it was taking place like some seminar conference at a Hilton... prominently featuring dudes in ties!


Checking out the speakers, I noticed some do, in fact, identify as anarchists. I checked out their blogs. They seem to write jibberish and use terms uncommon in the anarchist mileau. One such term that kept popping up is "agorist."

Wikipedia seems to tell me these agorists are "anarcho-capitalists" or just free market capitalists.

If you ask me, anyone thinking they are an anarcho-capitalist deserves a punch in the face. Hell, anarcho-capitalism is a fucking contradiction! Mere opposition to the state does not mean one is striving towards anarchy.

So who wants to go to the fest?

Apparently some of these fuckers also showed up in some front group at the LA Anarchist Bookfair as well.

6 Comments:

Blogger Noor said...

To be fair, agorism alone isn't that bad, it's "anarcho-capitalism" that's the problem.

I get along with the agorists that identify with the free-market anti-capitalism of Proudhon and others, though I don't really identify as agorist and certainly not "anarcho-capitalist" anymore. Although many of the Alliance of the Libertarian Left (that's the group that was present at the Anarchist Bookfair, I believe) people view Proudhon's mutualism and "an-cap" to be compatible, as both are viewed as merely two forms of market anarchism.

1:22 PM  
OpenID Db0 said...

You discovered AnCaps only just now? Man you're lucky. I have to beat them away with a stick sometimes.

3:11 PM  
Blogger Francois Tremblay said...

Yea, are you calling the ALL a capitalist front group? What the fuck dude?

4:02 PM  
Blogger shane said...

Agorists, ALL, AnCap, whatever. It is all splitting hairs. No matter how much you posers brand yourselves as anarchists, it is simply not anarchy.

Anarchy is not JUST absence of a state. It is also social "orders" against hierarchy. Your free market rests upon inequalities.

A stateless economy based on the natural laws of the free market and defense of individual property is just Gordon Gecko's wet dream.

7:39 PM  
Blogger Francois Tremblay said...

Dude, I don't believe in property. I've read Proudhon, give me some fucking credit. Why do you judge the ALL on the basis of its most soft proponents? Sure, some of us believe in private property, but some of us don't. Just because we're socialists instead of communists doesn't mean you can freely lump us with the enemy, you fuckin' agitateur!

A "free market" that rests on inequality is not a "free market." How can it be free if there is inequality? Freedom and equality are just two sides of the same coin. Do you even think when you write?

7:42 PM  
Blogger Noor said...

The ALL is, more than anything, very pluralist. There's no particular ALL-encompassing theory, though most of it has a mutualist/original-individualist-anarchist leaning, and you won't get anywhere if you continue to lump anti-capitalist anarchists in with capitalists.

10:27 PM  

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