United Nations (+Baader Brains, MTV, MySpace, Ceremony)
Dead Time Pacifies satellite HC recently discovered a dialogue was continued off-site for a post of mine.
United Nations commented that "it raised some very helpful questions.
1. Where does the line blur between influence and co-opting? Is it based on intent, the so-called Intentional Fallacy? Is the line crossed at the point at which a project generates income? Does it matter what the money is then used for? ie-- is there a difference between using the money for political interest or 'paying the bills' or say drugs?
2. Who decides what is valid and what isn't? Is there a burden of responsibility placed on the audience as well as the artist?
3. What part does identity politics play in all of this? Should they play a part? If a record is produced by Jello Biafra or Hannah Montana is there a difference if they are identical records?
We are not ready to attempt an answer to these questions just yet but we're very proud to help bring them to the center of the discussion."
To which, 82 Beats CC replied, "DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THESE TRICKY BLOGS.
MUSIC SUCKS FUCKIN ASS TODAY!!...fuck the YANKEES......and RED SOX.......and WHAT?!!"
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A Baader Brains agent then issued this related statement:
"In the colonial imaginary, the settler consumes the embodied subaltern and at times, it re-appropriates the Other.
One settler, one bullet. Time is clicking..."
-Silent Slippers, The Young Tiger Free Organization.
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I guess stores are refusing to carry UN's album due to cover art.
However, they are big on MySpace:
"We got a message from MySpace. ... We were one of the bands on the front page, but so was Snoop Dogg and this hot R&B chick, and they told us not only were we the most listened-to band that week but that the second one behind us had only half as many listens. I think it was 186,000 listens in the first 12 hours. So, for me, it's a little weird. I don't know what I was expecting would happen with this band, but it wasn't this."
Geoff Rickly went on to give props to Cursed and Ceremony on MTV.com!
United Nations commented that "it raised some very helpful questions.
1. Where does the line blur between influence and co-opting? Is it based on intent, the so-called Intentional Fallacy? Is the line crossed at the point at which a project generates income? Does it matter what the money is then used for? ie-- is there a difference between using the money for political interest or 'paying the bills' or say drugs?
2. Who decides what is valid and what isn't? Is there a burden of responsibility placed on the audience as well as the artist?
3. What part does identity politics play in all of this? Should they play a part? If a record is produced by Jello Biafra or Hannah Montana is there a difference if they are identical records?
We are not ready to attempt an answer to these questions just yet but we're very proud to help bring them to the center of the discussion."
To which, 82 Beats CC replied, "DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THESE TRICKY BLOGS.
MUSIC SUCKS FUCKIN ASS TODAY!!...fuck the YANKEES......and RED SOX.......and WHAT?!!"
______
A Baader Brains agent then issued this related statement:
"In the colonial imaginary, the settler consumes the embodied subaltern and at times, it re-appropriates the Other.
One settler, one bullet. Time is clicking..."
-Silent Slippers, The Young Tiger Free Organization.
_____
I guess stores are refusing to carry UN's album due to cover art.
However, they are big on MySpace:
"We got a message from MySpace. ... We were one of the bands on the front page, but so was Snoop Dogg and this hot R&B chick, and they told us not only were we the most listened-to band that week but that the second one behind us had only half as many listens. I think it was 186,000 listens in the first 12 hours. So, for me, it's a little weird. I don't know what I was expecting would happen with this band, but it wasn't this."
Geoff Rickly went on to give props to Cursed and Ceremony on MTV.com!
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